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Post by mr71transam on Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:11 am

If you are a Connecticut resident then you need to red this.


Fellow
CT Council of Car Clubs (4C's) Members:




House Bill 5405 was introduced in the Connecticut 2012 Legislative Session yesterday
(Friday March 2), 2012. The bill proposes to impose a state wide mill rate for
all motor vehicle property taxes. This
means if you live in a city/town with a relatively low mill rate, you will end
up paying more in local property taxes to subsidize others that live in a
city/town with a relatively high mill rate.
The state will act as the middleman to redistribute these funds. I will say no more about this aspect of House
Bill 5405, since it is not pertinent to the antique car
hobby.


What is pertinent to the hobby is that House Bill 5405 proposes to increase the
minimum age of an antique, rare or special interest vehicle from its current
20 year age to 30 years. The bill also raises the maximum property tax assessment
on antique, rare or special interest vehicles from the current $500 limit to
$2500 dollars.



Attached is House Bill 5405, "An Act Establishing a State-Wide Mill Rate for Motor
Vehicles and Amending the Definition of Antique, Rare or Special Interest Motor
Vehicles." It is a .pdf file. The proposal to raise the maximum property tax
assessment from $500 to $2500 starts on page 5 of 8, line 132 (Section 3 - which
proposes to revise Subsection (b) of Section 12-71 of the General Statutes). The
proposal to raise the minimum age of an antique, rare or special interest motor
vehicle from 20 to 30 years starts on page 7 of 8, line 187 (Section 5 - which
proposes to revise Subdivision (2) of Section 14-1 of the General Statutes).
When reading this, note that text
enclosed in brackets [ ] is being deleted. Underlined text is being added to the
statute. If the text is neither contained in brackets or underlined, it is the
current statute text that is not being changed.


The Planning and Development Committee Public Hearing for House Bill 5405 will be
next
Friday,
March 9, 2012 at 10:30 am in Room 2B of the Legislative Office
Building
.
I am planning on providing both oral and written testimony against House Bill
5405 on behalf of the 4C's. Others that feel strongly about this issue are
welcome to participate in the public hearing. Hobbyists are urged to contact their
legislator (particularly if they are members of the Planning and Development
Committee - a list of committee members is included at the end of this E-mail)
to indicate their opposition to these portions of House Bill 5405. (Should these issues adverse to the hobby
continue to appear in the follow on versions of the bill after this committee
hearing, we will be asking you to contact your legislators
again.)


Clearly, we are opposed to raising the maximum property tax assessed value of an antique,
rare or special interest motor vehicle from $500 to $2500, and will vigorously
fight it.


Frankly, I and a couple of members of the 4C's Board are not all that strongly opposed to
increasing the minimum age of an antique car from 20 to 30 years. With the quality of modern cars, there are
many daily drivers that reach 20 years and switch to the Early American plates.
This significantly increases the antique car population and makes us a larger
target for those who don't support the hobby.
I would appreciate any feedback you have regarding the increase to 30
years, and we will reflect this in our testimony at the public
hearing.


I will follow up will an E-mail after the public hearing on March
9th.




Dave
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Council of Car Clubs






Connecticut
Joint Committee on Planning and Development



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below:




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Senator
Steve Cassano (Co-Chair)
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Representative
Linda Gentile (Co-Chair)
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Eric D. Coleman (Vice Chair)
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Representative
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Senator
Len Fasano
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Bill Simanski
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Re: Our Connecticut Elected Officials are at it again.

Post by 69_RAG_TOP on Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:29 pm

I have already emailed the state representatives. Some of the email addresses are not good... Bill Semanski and Richard Smith did not send.
Here is an example email you can send.


Subject: House Bill 5405

Date: March 4, 2012

House Bill 5405, "An Act Establishing a State-Wide Mill Rate for Motor Vehicles and Amending the Definition of Antique, Rare or Special Interest Motor Vehicles."

I am against the plan to raise the maximum property tax assessment from $500 to $2500 on antique automobiles which starts on page 5 of 8, line 132 (Section 3 - which proposes to revise Subsection (b) of Section 12-71 of the General Statutes).

I am against the proposal to impose a state wide mill rate for all motor vehicle property taxes. This is an unfair and redistribution of tax generated from mill rate adjustment on property.

I am a member of a car club in Connecticut. We are not forprofit organizations and all of the proceeds that we raise from our antique car events go to many charitable causes located in Connecticut.

This unfair tax bill will hurt the automobile car hobby in Connecticut.

Regards,

"Your Name"

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Post by nap on Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:23 pm

Another nail in Connecticut's coffin. It makes me laugh when I hear our elected officals wonder why people are leaving the state.

And to further prove the point, Connecticut was just recently bestowed the honor of being the worst state to retire in.

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Post by 69_RAG_TOP on Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:11 pm





Nap,

Connecticut has more non-taxpaying voters than tax paying voters. They will vote for entitlements that taxpayers have to pay for. The Earned Income Credit is an example of this entitlement. Poor working class non paying taxpayers are getting refunds this year on no tax paid in. The intention is good in that wealthier people are helping the poor families in the state by wealth redistribution.

The government will not change these policies. The Governor, Lt Governor, State Treasurer, State Comptroller and State Secretary are Democrats.

The State Senate is Democratic controlled. The Senate Majority Leader is a Democrat. The State House is Democratic controlled. The House Minority Leader is a Democrat.

Connecticuts five Congressional seats are held by Democrats. Connecticuts two Senate seats are held by Democrats.

Most large cities are run by a Democratic mayor and Democratic town councils.

The Connecticut colleges just raised tuition again this year. We are paying 70.3 cents per gallon Excise tax on gasoline in Connecticut...the highest in the nation.

This fall Chris Murphy will run for Leiberman's Senate seat and will win, keeping the seat for the Democrats. Chris Donovan will run for Congressman Murphy's congressional seat and will win keep the seat for the Democrats.

This means that our voters will continue to elect liberal Democrats to political office.

I have lived in Connecticut all my life. I grew up in the inner city of New Britain where a third of the population was hispanic, a third was african american and a third was Polish. I was nether of the three... a true minority...lol

Connecticut has the highest sales taxes, highest gas taxes and one of the highest state income taxes. Recently I found out that Connecticut is the only state to tax Retirement Income.

<p>Soon I will be looking to find a retirement home in Florida, South Carolina or Tennessee where there is no state income taxes, low sales tax and no tax on Retirement Income.
It is too costly to stay in this state and impossible to retire in Connecticut.

My friend moved to Colorado and his house tax dropped from $9,000 in Connecticut to $1,100 on his house in Colorado.

And he pays no property tax on any of his cars!



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Post by mr71transam on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:22 pm

The main problem I have with this is the STATE Officials
believe they can do a better job than the Local Elected Officials can. This is
another way to increase the STATE’S power by controlling more of our money. In
CT the property tax mil rate is set by
the locally elected officials bases on the local towns/cities budget requirements. What the STATE wants to do is set up a STATE mil rate and then
collect property tax based on the rate they set. They will then determine how
much each town/city should receive.

What really scares me is once they have this
STATE mil rate in place on Classic cars they will just extend it to all
property. Thus removing the Local towns/cities ability to collect taxes to
cover their own budgets. This will make all towns/cities dependent on the STATE
for all their funds. Next the STATE dictate to the towns/cities how and to what
the towns/cities can spend the STATE‘S money on. The STATE would then have
complete control on how much STATE FUNDS each towns/cities receives, thus controlling
the growth of each town/city based on what the STATE believes is best of
everyone

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Post by rkellerjr on Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:10 pm

I won't be moving there, talk about redistribution of wealth!
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Post by 69_RAG_TOP on Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:32 pm

Rich,

Absolutely correct. Redistribution of wealth.
You would not want to be moving to Connecticut with that beautiful red 1975 Trans Am.
Connecticut would increase your taxes on it.

This is how I look at republicans vs. democrats:

Republican: You worked hard for what you have. You should feel satisfied in being productive and deserve to keep it and thrive from your hard work.

Democrat: You worked hard for what you have. But you should feel guilty and ashamed that you have more than others so it is patriotic to give it to those who didn't work as hard as you.

BTW... I am not a republican and I am not a democrat. I am a Libertarian.


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Post by rkellerjr on Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:05 pm

I consider myself an independent that leans in both areas of conservativism and constitutionalism. I also believe in compassion to our fellow man so I do believe in a hand-up but, not a hand-out.
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Post by Steve on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:55 pm

There is a debate as to who created this quote although it is usually attributed to the Scottish historian Alexander Fraser Tytler

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

You may think Dictatorship sounds like an impossibility but isn't the Dept of Homeland Security granting itself rights to hold any individual indefinitely without cause? Our rights are slowly disappearing in favor of all these lawmakers keeping us all safe and healthy. I wonder how all those boys storming Omaha Beach fighting for our right to freedom would have felt about that? The right to bear arms has been diluted to nothing in Massachusetts.

Our country has been sold for votes.
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Post by rkellerjr on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:28 am

I think one of the biggest mind sets in this country is that we are a democracy. We are not, we are a republic which is a big difference. See this video..

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Post by 69_RAG_TOP on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:35 am


Rich,

Great video! It made me think the same thing is happening to this country in 2012.

At least I know why we are failing as a nation.

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Post by Formulabruce on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:27 am

< claiming Ignorance..What is a "mill" or mill rate?
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Post by mr71transam on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:21 am

The mil rate is set by each town/city to determine how much taxs you will play. Basicly it the amount of taxes the town needs to collect to meet their budget. mil rate= budget/accessed personal property value. The tax the town receives from collecting the personal property taxes is how they fund the local government. This includes the school budget.

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Post by Formulabruce on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Damn, you would think that the PEOPLE would say HERE is your budget, deal with it!
We have a Tax cap, thank God, here
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